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yea u make some good points, but just that cold hearted mentality as far as in the relationship scene gotta stop, cuz it's just gonna get worse and worse.

I respect what you pointed out. But LUST? I didn't even think of that. But Lust is also what guys do too. I am disappointed in the fact that certain men will succumb to lust and date women that aren't quite good. So I can see a guy that has so much potential that I could be attracted to, we may not get together yet I think he still cool... but then he goes out with trash. Quickly turning me off and I say... what you have pointed out earlier in the forum... he is who he dates" Ew"

So Lust is the culprit, damn it! but it also goes back to what the person feels they deserve. so quick satisfaction is more value to them instead of a deeper connection and many hot passionate nights,mornings, and afternoons...getting your mind, heart and body stimulated by the one that loves you... yeah I went there...

I think those females that go to the players really want the players but they say the opposite because its the right thing to do.. like quiting smoking or losing a few pounds when you know you wont stop eating krispy kremes! (man! they are exquisite donuts)
and to add to that also if they only know playas and talk about that there is no good men then thats is only what they will see until they change their tune... so you can be the guy who introduces them to the allegory of the cave .. where until they see that there is more good men out there and they REALLY EXIST they will continue to be in the cave of Playas and Drama...it can be done I woke up a few people :) Let yourself be known PR DR

"So what is your explanation of this behavior?"

My explanation so far is that sure I believe some women are at fault due to low self esteem but not all. The rest due it for the instant gratification of self pleasure AKA LUST most likely.

"As a man. a friend, a brother, or a father how would you approach this situation where a woman you love is not valuing her treasures?"

Well for a person who has through this situation unfortunately more than once. I can honestly say it makes no damn sense, because most of the females who make poor choices like that are the same ones who preach about "Oh I can't find a right man and Oh they all playas" but when they have the guy who has all those traits they wish they can find.. what do they do? They go with the playa. LOL. I mean til this day "Im sooo confused about it all" cuz it makes NOOO Sense the only sense that I can make of it is like I said straight lust. These females in the long run have NOOO reason to complain. "Still Confused" lol

So what is your explanation of this behavior? Because short of not knowing who you are as a woman and when to recognize a loser through experience, I strongly believe that low self esteem is a mayor factor in addition to others to have a woman act or re-act that way.

If the woman for what ever reason does not value herself, her actions will expose what she feels about herself(that is obvious)
so with that said
As a man. a friend, a brother, or a father how would you approach this situation where a woman you love is not valuing her treasures?

LOL. Nah it's just healthy debates.

Wow, I said let the games begin. But THE GLOVES ARE COMING OFF! LOL.

Wow, I said let the games begin. But THE GLOVES ARE COMING OFF! LOL.

that my friend is called c**kteasin in NYC

I said CERTAIN FEMALES not all. And lately those "certain females" is starting to get larger and larger nowadays due to young girls getting knocked up due to according what your saying "low self esteem" so what is now happeneing is we have kids raising kids further to make our situations worse as a community.

*So you're saying every female who sleeps with other people for all the wrong reasons is due to LOW SELF ESTEEM???? I'm sorry that can only be the reason for some can't be all and if it is for all I am shocked because that many females can't be THAT irrational to degrade themselves in that manner.

So the value of women for you and maybe a lot of other people is by who they giving skins to? Well I agree that a woman should value herself enough to be very particular as to with whom she shares herself with.

So at what point do you stop talking to females that you discover this unattractive trait of low self esteem? does that mean you talk to them like whatever until you find her worthy of your god's gift treatment?

Very curious

I use to talk to certain females as though they were God's gift until i found out how less valuable they were by who they were giving their bodily gifts to...

Didn't think I would get a female witness on my case, and I got two. Big ups to you ladies for keeping it real. I hear you. Not all women, and the maturity level (not age) tends to make a difference. Still an epidemic, though. Glad you like the topic. Have some friends join the discussion. It's just getting fun...

You know what...I have to agree with the boys...BUT ive only seen it happen with younger girls...like once you dont give them your attention...all of a sudden they are interested again...or just dont want you giving another chic that attention...
BUT the girls are right...NOT ALL WOMEN are like that.
good topic tho!
=)

just keep it grown...ull be alright.

-neida

LOL. Yo check this column totally relevant to this topic

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/menlovesex/73762/why-men-don-t-talk/

I see you've had experience with the Dominican flava. ;o) But, I ain't even trying to say all that. She's not into me. Period. She's really just confused. My comment was not about all women. I guess I wasn't clear. There are always exceptions to the rule. I used this girl as the latest example of many (many...many more) experiences with you guys. LOL. MOST women love the attention and MOST tend to want it back when you take it away. Even if they are not all into you, like this girl with me. I did address it after a few of her calls and e-mails. She wants "things to be the same as they was". Go out again. I'm just not interested anymore. Magic is gone (and the Lakers have not been the same since) LOL. That game is over and this Dominican playa loves the pick up games. LOL. THE GAME IS OLD! I hear that. And, it does go both ways. You guys just happened to play it this way a lot more than we do. CAN I GET ANOTHER AMEN, BROTHERS?! Pero me vo'a deja de vaina... LOL. You call it as you see it, sista. My respects to you on that... From now on, Ima just call you MizReal. ;o) How's that?

I agree with Mayra, in the sense you have to single this girl out from the WOMEN behavior tag you started out with. Its like the dynamic of the party scene changed her(your gurl) opinion from when it was just the two of you. Also you became more appealing because you were doing your own thing. She must have found that to be a turn on. I guess she thought you would come to her at any whim and when you stood your ground like any proud Dominican man(and you guys work that very well!!! I have observed from my Dominican uncles and ex-boyfriends) she thought "DAMN! I need to get his attention Ima get him!" Now she is in Stalker mode if she is using every communication medium to get a hold of you. Thats shameful, I'm embarrassed for the girl. And you are not a victim homie... you could have taken initiative to clarify what the Heck she wanted. Instead of being confused about the whole deal. and you guys play the same game so dejate de vaina you know this game is OLD!

Preach on, Mikey! :)

Duly noted. See your point. But, I don't be paying attention to the fellas, so I wouldn't know about that. :) I wasn't trying to hate on women. I got nothing but love for y'all. I was just sharing my observations on an interesting anecdote to spark conversation. But, I see it did the more than that: "game playing, needy, whiny, wimps". LOL. :) I like that! Very funny. LOL. COME ON! BRING IT LADIES! I KNOW MY BOYS GOT MY BACK.

You know what the funny thing is.... I've experienced that same situation before with a guy. Men and women are very different, but I think in this case you are upset at this girl's actions and so you're attacking all women saying that women in general play games, as if men don't. Why is it that I experience things with men that guys are always classifying as 'women' behavior? Is it because men are turning into game playing, needy, whiny, wimps? Or is it that each person is an individual and in both men and women you're gonna find these types, because after all, we are all human! You played it right, but I think you should be more open to the idea of different people having different ways and reactions instead of saying 'women' in general.

You played it correct my friend. Just because you're just friends doesn't mean you can't show her a goodtime on the dancefloor BUT you do it when YOU want and not because she needs attention.

I knew I would get an Amen on that! Bro, your studies are correct. I'm thinking the authorities are just going to have to address this epidemic. LOL. They just can't get enough attention! Kinda funny how easy it is at times (not with all) to flip it on them just by taking it away just a bit. It's hillarious to me. Can't wait to see their comments. Watch. They'll be all up-in-arms calling ME the player or probably even inmature or an A-hole. And, I am just the victim here. LOL. BRING IT ON, LADIES. LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

LOL. Damn I feel u hermano. I must agree though my studies have shown to prove a steep spike lately on females playin games like that. I call the cold hearted one DAY WALKAS. =/